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JUST KIDDING, I DID HAVE 1 TREE EXPERT TELL ME THAT. EVEN IN OUR FAIR CITY (TREE CITY USA) THE WORST TREATMENTS PREVAIL. IT'S NOT OK TO REMOVE A TREE BUT IT'S OK TO TOP THE LIVING HELL OUT OF IT, THEY CALL IT PRUNING. WE NOW HAVE CERT. ARBORISTS DOING THIS. WHEN SOMEONE CALLS ME FOR A QUOTE, THEY ASK ARE YOU A CERT.ARBORIST? AND I AM. THEY SAY SEE THAT TREE NEXT DOOR TOPPED AT 40' LAST WEEK IT WAS 70', THEY WERE CERT. ARBORIST.SO I DON'T NEED YOU. THIS REFLECTS ON HOW THE GENERAL PUBLIC SEES THE PROGRAM.
I'VE CALL THE ISA ABOUT THIS, THEY WON'T THINK OF CORRECTING THE SITUTATION. AS STATED TO ME IT'S ONLY A EDUCATIONAL TOOL, NO MORE.
NOW DO I TOP TREES, YES.
WHY? (PLEASE EVERYBODY LISTEN)BECAUSE WE SELL IT AS A BAD PRACTICE OR SHORT TERM FIX. NOW HOLD ON! THE TREE WE SPIKED UP TO TOP
THEY WANT TO LIVE ONLY 2 YEARS MORE, OR WHATEVER THE CLIENT ASKED FOR. WE DON'T SELL IT AS A HEALTHY TREATMENT. OTHER TREES HAVE BEEN PLANTED, MORE LIGHT WAS NEEDED, WE WANT THIS MAPLE HERE FOR 1 MORE YEAR THAN REMOVED. SO, NOW IS IT OK TO TOP & USE HOOKS TO PRUNE ON THE TREES AS I HAVE DESCRIBED?
I'LL NEVER SELL IT AS A HEALTHY TREATMENT, I ALWAYS TELL FOLKS THIS IS PART OF THE REMOVAL PROCESS.
NOW, IF A HOME OWNER WANTS THEIR TREES TOPPED SHOULD THEY DO IT? EVEN AFTER THEY KNOW IT'S VERY BAD FOR THE TREE?
NOW, DO YOU THINK MY MIND IS CLOSED?
OR YOU JUST DIDN'T THINK ABOUT IT LIKE THAT.
NOW SHOULD I USE THE SAME THOUGHT PROCESS FOR ARBOR-GAMES? NOT IN THIS THREAD!
NOW YOUR MOVING TOWARDS AN ISSUE THAT I FEEL VERY STRONGLY ABOUT,FREE CHOICE!
I NO LONGER RIDE A MOTORCYCLE, BUT SHOULD THESE PEOPLE BE FORCED TO WEAR A HELMET?
IT'S THEIR HEAD,LIFE & WHAT EVER. WHEN I RACED MOTO-CROSS I ALWAYS USED THE BEST HELMENT THAT MONEY COULD BUY. IT WAS MY CHOICE!
THE GOV. FEELS THEY NEED TO POLICE THE WORLD, PROTECT YOU & ME (BECAUSE WE CAN'T THINK ?) I DON'T THINK SO, OR MAYBE BIG BUSINESS(INSURANCE COMPANIES) ARE TELLING THE GOV. WHAT TO DO. MY POINT IS ALL THESE ISSUES ARE LINKED, THINK ABOUT IT.