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okay, granted, the trees I climb most of the time are not as tall as the trees you climb. They do spread widely, though, which may explain why I like the split tail and you don't. Often, especially in pecans, I can't choose a nice central leader that will allow access to the whole tree. It's not the up and down climbing I do most of the time--it's lateral. I need a new tie in for each section in many pecans and live oaks.
One more thought, use a carabiner for a slack tender it's far faster than !>a small pulley!
I find it's easier to pull a rope through the pulley than a carabiner--worht the two extra seconds.
Have you ever clim>bed on a swivel snap? My saddle uses a single dee ring.
My saddle has a floating dee where I tie in and two side dees where I safety in. Never used a swivel snap because biners are so much lighter, and I don't have any trouble with the rope twisting up because I can so easily untwist it.
>I've used the master & it's not a tree saddle!
I'm not crazy about the master from one brief climb, but I would still prefer it to the old butt pinchers.
>What about cam guard? Do you need to use one?
I have but rarely use one, as most trees I work on have sturdy enough bark to protect the cambium, and it's not worth it to drag that strap all over the tree (remember, I recrotch a lot).
>On what species? What do you know about that species? I could go on but if you're serious about this business you should all the proper names of trees in latin, plant pathology & more.
Now you're getting patronizing. You know nothing about my knowledge of trees. I happen to be ISA certified. I don't know as much as my boss with his 20 yrs. exp., and you probably know more than me, too, but I know enough to provide quality work for the trees I climb. and yes, I'm still learning.
As I said about ARBOR-GAMES These people are there to sell equipment thats all!!! They don't climb or run a sucessful tree company. If they did, you wouldn't see them trying to sell a show. They wouldn't have the time! One other point their abilty to teach is terrible. To be successful today you must educate others.
Rip Tomkins taught me the throwline/cambuium saver technique at a jamboree & seemed competent, but I'm really not int he market for their service & don't know how well they teach. But if I want to teach somebody to climb safely, why not hire someone who does that as a specialty rather than pulling a climber off a job to hold the rookie's hand?
>Also, what are going to do when you're asked to prune(no spurs!) a tree with the first limb 100' high. That first limb is dead not safe to climb? The canopy is too full throw a line through.
Have yuo really tried that throwball? You'd be surprised how maneuverable it can be. But, honestly, I almost definitely won't be asked to do that, as noted above. But I'm sure if the person who asked me was at al friendly, I could get a little advice and find a way to do it. I'm sure it's a long way up there, but it's still climbing, and I'm very good at that (even without getting into the money pit sport of rock climbing).
I don't even foot lock why bother when you have 2 ground men that are on the pay roll & I'm paying workers comp. on.
I wish I could say the same, but we can't afford to have guys sitting on the ground while we prune (we often do class one work, generating mostly ball moss for cleanup).
Keep an open mind & don't depend on others to stimulate your mind.
There's that patronizing tone again. I do stimulate my own mind, but I find that other people can be good tools in that process. If you'd listen to someone else awhile, you might be surprised.
Do you know why the split tail is so popular in Europe? They don't have the funds to buy a new rope or do they have a source for the proper rope. Call New England ropes such as I have!
I don't have funds to throw around on new ropes, either. I have a good, inexpensive source, but I get paid by the hour and even a cheap rope has to last me as long as possible. I can't afford $22 spiced tails from Sherrill's, but I can afford to splice my own and save the rest of my rope from constant friction in one spot.
It's fine with me if you never use the split tail system again. But there's no need to condemn it just because it doesn't suit your needs. There are real advantages.
Keith
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